Wishlist - What features do you want? P3000 Updates on development
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Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen

Hei!

Let's talk about P2000.

The idea behind P2000 is to make a machine as sturdy and clean as possible and top it with enough sensors so that the machine can monitor itself and the roasting process flawlessly. Now we want feedback from our users, and others, to make sure we incorporate the right features from the start.

So, what features would you want to see in P2000?


List of things we have already implemented (some of these will be optional):

Sensors:

  • Multiple bean temperature sensors (up to three on each side)
  • Multiple profile temperature sensors (one on each side)
  • Drum temperature sensor
  • Bean cooler temperature sensor  
  • Heating element / inlet temperature sensors (one for each of the three heating elements)
  • Individual control of each heating element
  • RTD, K-type and IR temperature sensors
  • Voltage reader (0.5% accuracy)
  • Integrated camera for visual inspection and colour tracking
  • First crack detection
  • Humidity sensor
  • Ambient temperature sensor
  • Pressure sensors
  • Proximity sensors for motors and hatches
Features:

  • 2000 grams capacity (FC in under 6 min)
  • Single phase, 16A heating elements (reduced power output of 3500Watt)
  • Three phase, 32A heating elements (max power of 5000Watt)
  • Motors for all hatches
  • Internal chaff cyclone
  • Filter for bean cooler
  • Filter for inlet air (air used to cool the machine and roast your coffee)
  • Easy access for daily and weekly cleaning
  • Dual fans (back to back roasting)
  • 13" 2k resolution touch screen
  • Rotary knob for easy adjustments
  • USB hub (connect label printers, mouse, keyboard and other accessories)
  • WiFi - 2.4 GHz and 5.0 GHz
  • Bluetooth 5.0
  • Ethernet cable  
Updated 2022: We are aiming for a batch capacity of 2500grams, with the option of roasting up to 3000 grams.
Update 2024: Some of the above information is out-dated. PS: Our latest prototype is working fantastic!
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MAKOMO Junior Member 5 posts
MAKOMO
Artisan support
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EdCos Junior Member 2 posts
EdCos
Artisan support and external chaff cyclone
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Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen
MAKOMO wrote:
Artisan support


That will be up to Artisan as we have more information than what they can support. 

We will make our API available. 
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coffeetree Junior Member 2 posts
coffeetree
Artisan support 
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MAKOMO Junior Member 5 posts
MAKOMO
Not sure what information ROEST has that cannot be configured in Artisan, but publishing your API is a strong move awaited for long. The Artisan team is looking forward to this!
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Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen
EdCos wrote:
Artisan support and external chaff cyclone


Any specific reasons you want it externally? 

With P2000 cleaning of the chaff cyclone will be very simple, all you need to do is remove the external ventilation hose and use our custom tool for cleaning (its a brush you can connect to a powerdrill). 

Having the cyclone internally makes the machine more efficient as we are using the heat from the cyclone.

And the chaff gets compressed and extruded at the back of the machine ðŸ˜Ž   

/Sverre
 


 
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Stefano Junior Member 5 posts
Stefano
I don't own a roest so I am not sure of the machines already have the following: 
- Built-in automatic timers for tracking duration of opening of charging and drop doors (to help consistency)
- shut off burner at max bt to avoid fires 
- "in case of fire" button. The machine should automatically execture the safest procedure to shut off the machine.
- full chaff collector detector or counter at pre-set number of batches.
- closing door mechanism from cyclone to chaff collector so that the machine does not need to be shut off when the chaff collector is open
- maintainance list synchronized with cycles counter.

You welcome!
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Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen
Stefano wrote:
I don't own a roest so I am not sure of the machines already have the following: 
- Built-in automatic timers for tracking duration of opening of charging and drop doors (to help consistency)
- shut off burner at max bt to avoid fires 
- "in case of fire" button. The machine should automatically execture the safest procedure to shut off the machine.
- full chaff collector detector or counter at pre-set number of batches.
- closing door mechanism from cyclone to chaff collector so that the machine does not need to be shut off when the chaff collector is open
- maintainance list synchronized with cycles counter.

You welcome!


Thank you for the input,
All the above is standard with ROEST P2000 ðŸ™‚ 
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EdCos Junior Member 2 posts
EdCos
Wow, like a big machine. I imagined having to open the machine to unload the chaff

And the chaff gets compressed and extruded at the back of the machine Ã°Å¸ËœÅ½   

/Sverre
 


 
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esppwr Junior Member 8 posts
esppwr
External HDMI display output.
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Kris kristhurbin Junior Member 4 posts
Kris kristhurbin
Wow! This sounds like it is going to be amazing...very excited! 

Not sure I can think of anything that isn't on the list, hardware sounds all encompassing. Making sure the software is in tune to get the most from it and intuitively will be a great part to master.

The camera for visual inspection and colour tracking - this sounds great. Is the plan to introduce a specific colour tracking feature to help with accurate detection, either your own solution or something like the color track offering? That would really help with getting a consistent roast and exactly how you want it to be.

Will the single phase version need to be running a different (lower) batch capacity because of the lower power output?

I'm not even sure it would be possible, but might be a nice feature to be able to scale a profile from the Roest Sampler on to the P2000....would always be a degree of manual fine tuning, but may be easier to achieve between two machines built by the same company rather than definitely not being able to do it between the sample and another production roaster.
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Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen
esppwr wrote:
External HDMI display output.


We will include this if the testing goes well ðŸ‘
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Sverre Simonsen Co-Founder & CTO 249 posts
Sverre Simonsen

Kris  kristhurbin wrote:

The camera for visual inspection and colour tracking - this sounds great. Is the plan to introduce a specific colour tracking feature to help with accurate detection, either your own solution or something like the color track offering? That would really help with getting a consistent roast and exactly how you want it to be.


It would be a nice feature, I agree. 

Kris  kristhurbin wrote:


Will the single phase version need to be running a different (lower) batch capacity because of the lower power output?



Either smaller batch size or longer roast time, but I think it will still be faster then the majority of the roasters out there. 

Kris  kristhurbin wrote:



I'm not even sure it would be possible, but might be a nice feature to be able to scale a profile from the Roest Sampler on to the P2000....would always be a degree of manual fine tuning, but may be easier to achieve between two machines built by the same company rather than definitely not being able to do it between the sample and another production roaster.

 

This is something we will need more time to figure out if possible. 
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Chris Lee-Gaston Junior Member 21 posts
Chris Lee-Gaston
Hey everybody, Hi Sverre, 
 
First up, so excited about the P2000 as a concept in general, that I’m not even particularly worried about the initial individual features - as long as it does what it says it does so far, the P2000 is going to turn the industry on its head. I’ll take my hat off and say thank you to Sverre and Trond and team for the amazing work they’ve already done so far and all I can offer in terms of the further immediate development is following:
 
  1. Software: The Roest Sample roasters have already proven that the software is at least as important if not more than the hardware. No other company is doing this as well as Roest at this moment - the software, particularly the website interfaces need as much attention as the physical design. To put it bluntly as a Roaster, I’m prepared to roast beans in a rusty frying pan if I can get the results that I want: and the results are based on the accuracy and accessibility of my data. That is for me the key to the Roest. It not only generates heaps of data for me, but it also makes it easily accessible and comparable. If the P2000 pulls that off… 
  2. Keep it Simple, but Deep: I second the Artisan-Compatibility argument but I will hazard to point at that although this product is basically aimed at a community of people who *like* to fool around with software and  technology, the Roest’s greatest strength is that it also makes it possible for just about anybody to use the machine without years and years of insight and experience in roasting and software. At the same time, those who have the Exp. appreciate the complexity and depth that the Roest offers, but you gotta keep it simple too, yo. The problem with Artisan integration as an in-house project would just be the massive amount of time that would flood into getting that to work seamlessly. That is a job best left random software/coffee nerds (like us folks, haha), so yeah the API-release is already the best move, I think.
  3. Modularity and Uniformity: I see a particular potential in the modularity of the P2000 - I remember seeing lots of people joking about running a bunch of P100s in sequence to do Batch-roasts and with the P2000 you could literally do that, like, no joke. imagine 2 or even 3 of these bad-boys set up consecutively, just busting out perfect roasts all damn day. So, I guess the advice is to consider modularity and accuracy/replication-protocols because if I put 2 of the machines next to each other and run exactly the same product and protocol but get wildly different results, that would be a big problem. 
 
I guess that’s all more philosophical than technical but all the same I hope it helps - in any case my colleagues and I in Frankfurt *really* appreciate how damn hard y’all are working on this and are just really thankful that someone has taken on the challenge of creating a product like this! 
 
keep up the amazing work! 
 
Best regards, 
 
Chris Lee, Frankfurt am Main
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